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Troubleshooting Guide \u00b7 All 9YF Models \u00b7 Spring-Tooth and Hammer-Claw<\/p>\n

Square Baler Pickup Problems: Tine Wear, Height and Recovery Fixes<\/h1>\n

Crop left on the ground behind the pickup is direct revenue loss \u2014 every pass that misses hay is income that stays in the field. Pickup problems range from simple height adjustment errors that take two minutes to fix to hub bearing failure that requires a service visit. This guide identifies every cause with the specific inspection test and fix for each.<\/p>\n

Covers: tine wear inspection \u00b7 pickup height \u00b7 hub bearings \u00b7 cam retraction \u00b7 crop wrapping \u00b7 spring-tooth vs hammer-claw \u00b7 recovery rate targets<\/p>\n

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What a Correctly Operating Pickup Looks Like<\/h2>\n

Before diagnosing a problem, know what correct pickup operation looks like. Standing beside the machine at low operating speed, a correctly functioning pickup should: rotate smoothly with no wobble or side-to-side movement at the hub; have all tines extending fully at the 12 o-clock position and retracting completely before passing the 6 o-clock position; leave no visible stripe of uncollected crop across the windrow width; and make no grinding, clicking or rattling noises beyond the normal mechanical sound of the reel rotation.<\/p>\n

Any deviation from this baseline \u2014 visible crop left in a regular pattern, noise, wobble or incomplete tine retraction \u2014 points to a specific component. The pattern of uncollected crop is particularly diagnostic: a full-width thin stripe across the windrow indicates a height problem; a partial-width stripe at consistent intervals indicates missing or bent tines in a specific reel row; a ragged, uneven pattern across the windrow indicates a cam or retraction problem.<\/p>\n

Cause 1: Pickup Height Set Incorrectly \u2014 The Most Common Error<\/h2>\n

The Right Clearance and Why It Matters<\/h3>\n

The pickup height \u2014 the clearance between the lowest tine tip point and the ground surface \u2014 is the single most frequently incorrect setting on square balers in active use. The correct clearance for most crops and field conditions is 30\u201350mm (approximately 1.2\u20132 inches) from the tine tip to the ground. Below 30mm, the tines contact the ground and scoop soil, debris and stubble into the crop stream, reducing bale quality and increasing wear. Above 60mm, the tines pass over the lower portions of the windrow and leave a stripe of material on the ground.<\/p>\n

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Too Low (below 30mm)<\/div>\n

Tines contact soil surface. Bales accumulate soil and debris. Tine wear rate accelerates. Ash content in hay increases \u2014 a problem for export market buyers.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Correct (30\u201350mm)<\/div>\n

Full windrow collection. No soil pickup. Tines operate in the crop material only. Consistent material delivery to the feeder. Check this at the start of each session.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Too High (above 60mm)<\/div>\n

Lower windrow material left uncollected. Visible stripe on the ground after each pass. Bales are lighter than expected. Most significant in low-lying windrows after heavy raking.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Adjusting Pickup Height<\/h3>\n

Height is adjusted via the gauge wheel position on both sides of the pickup reel or by adjusting the pickup lift arms on models with hydraulic or mechanical height control. Adjust both sides equally \u2014 uneven height settings cause the pickup to run at a lateral tilt, collecting more from one side of the windrow than the other. After any height adjustment, walk the machine for 20\u201330 metres at operating speed and visually check that no material stripe remains behind the pickup and no soil is being picked up. Adjust on soft ground, then recheck on firm ground \u2014 gauge wheel sinkage varies by soil type and can shift effective clearance by 15\u201320mm.<\/p>\n

Cause 2: Spring Tine Damage \u2014 Bent, Missing or Worn<\/h2>\n

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Spring Tine Inspection Standard<\/h3>\n

Spring tines on the 9YF-1700, 9YF-1900 and 9YF-2200 are rated for a specific angular range and tip profile. A tine is due for replacement when it meets any of the following criteria: visibly bent more than 15mm from its original straight line when viewed from the side at rest; shortened by more than 10% of original length from tip wear; broken at any point along its length; or sprung to a relaxed angle that differs by more than 10 degrees from adjacent undamaged tines in the same row.<\/p>\n

Missing tines are an immediate priority \u2014 each missing tine leaves a gap in the pickup face that produces a consistent stripe of uncollected material across the windrow at that tine spacing interval. In a dense windrow with a well-matched forward speed, a single missing tine can leave 10\u201315% of the crop from that lateral position uncollected per pass.<\/p>\n

Replacement Approach<\/h3>\n

Replace all damaged tines in a single service rather than replacing individual tines as they fail. The reason: individually replacing tines of different ages and wear states creates an uneven pickup face \u2014 new tines have a different spring constant from used tines and deliver non-uniform force across the reel width. At the same pickup height, a reel with mixed-age tines collects unevenly, producing a windrow feed variation that shows as inconsistent bale weight even when other machine settings are correct. Annual tine replacement as a maintenance item \u2014 rather than reactive replacement after visible damage \u2014 is the correct standard for operations above 200 bales per season.<\/p>\n

Cause 3: Hammer-Claw Tine Tip Wear (9YF-2200S and 9YFS-2.2)<\/h2>\n

The hammer-claw pickup on the 9YF-2200S and 9YFS-2.2 uses rigid cast or forged tines rather than spring steel. The claw tip face that contacts and grips crop material develops a specific wear pattern \u2014 the forward contact angle decreases as the tip rounds from abrasion. When the tip angle has worn beyond specification, the claw slides over rather than gripping crop material, reducing recovery rate particularly in thin or fragile windrows where positive tine engagement is needed to lift material from the ground.<\/p>\n

Inspect hammer-claw tine tips by comparing the tip face angle to the specification drawing in the operator manual. A tip that has visibly rounded from the original sharp-angle profile is approaching the replacement threshold. Measure the tip width \u2014 manufacturer specifications typically call for replacement when tip width has increased by more than 2mm beyond the new-part width at the contact face, indicating excessive rounding.<\/p>\n

Hammer-claw tines are more durable than spring tines but significantly more expensive per unit. The replacement schedule is typically every 3\u20135 seasons for standard hay and straw operation, or every 1\u20132 seasons in abrasive hard-stalk crops (cotton, corn stover) where tip wear accelerates. Replace as a set across the full reel \u2014 as with spring tines, mixed new and worn hammer-claws produce non-uniform pickup performance.<\/p>\n

Cause 4: Pickup Hub Bearing Wear or Failure<\/h2>\n

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Symptoms and Inspection<\/h3>\n

Pickup hub bearing wear produces a gradual-onset problem: lateral reel wobble increases as bearing play increases, causing the effective pickup height to vary across the reel width. At low bearing wear, the variation is small enough to produce only minor collection inconsistency. As wear progresses, the reel oscillates enough to contact the ground on one side of the pass while running too high on the other \u2014 producing a characteristic diagonal stripe pattern in the uncollected crop behind the machine.<\/p>\n

To test hub bearing condition: with the PTO completely disengaged and the machine stationary, grasp the pickup reel tube near each hub and attempt to move it radially (in and out, perpendicular to its rotation axis). Acceptable radial play is less than 1mm at the tube surface. Play greater than 2mm at the tube surface indicates a bearing near the replacement threshold. Also rotate the reel slowly by hand \u2014 a grinding or gritty resistance that is absent when the hub is hand-warm indicates bearing damage that may not yet produce audible noise at low operating speed but will fail under operating load.<\/p>\n

Replacement Schedule<\/h3>\n

Pickup hub bearings are a standard annual inspection item. Lubricate at the specified grease interval throughout the season \u2014 under-greased bearings fail in 1\u20132 seasons; correctly greased bearings typically last 4\u20138 seasons in standard hay and straw operation. Replace both hub bearings as a pair when either reaches the inspection limit \u2014 running a new bearing against a worn bearing at the opposite hub produces uneven reel support and can accelerate wear of the new bearing from running at a lateral angle.<\/p>\n

Cause 5: Cam and Tine Retraction Problems<\/h2>\n

How Tine Retraction Works and What Fails<\/h3>\n

The pickup tines extend to collect crop at the front of the reel arc and retract back into the reel tube as they pass the bottom and rear of the rotation. This retraction is controlled by a fixed cam profile that the tine carrier follower rides. If the cam is worn, cracked or misadjusted, tines may not retract fully \u2014 remaining partially extended as they pass the bottom of the reel arc where they should be tucked away. A partially extended tine at the bottom of the arc will drag crop backward along the ground rather than depositing it into the feeder, and can pick up soil and debris from the ground surface even when the pickup height is correctly set.<\/p>\n

Inspect tine retraction by standing beside the machine with the PTO engaged at low speed and watching the tine tips at the bottom and rear of the reel arc. All tines should be fully retracted \u2014 not visible or barely visible \u2014 by the time they reach the 6 o-clock position. Any tine that remains more than 10mm extended at 6 o-clock indicates either a worn cam follower for that tine carrier, a cracked or worn cam surface at that angular position, or a bent tine carrier that prevents full retraction travel.<\/p>\n

Fix and Adjustment<\/h3>\n

The cam position adjustment \u2014 where available on the model \u2014 changes the retraction timing relative to the reel rotation. Cam wear typically produces progressive late retraction, meaning tines retract correctly early in the season and progressively later as the cam surface wears. Cam wear is inspected by measuring the cam profile height at multiple angular positions using a depth gauge. A cam with more than 1.5mm of wear at any measured point requires replacement. Individual tine carrier followers can be replaced without removing the full cam assembly on most 9YF models.<\/p>\n

Cause 6: Crop Wrapping Around the Pickup Shaft<\/h2>\n

Long, stringy or vine-type crop material \u2014 cotton plant residue, sorghum vine, lodged wheat stems, climbing weeds \u2014 can wrap around the pickup reel tube between the tine rows during operation. The accumulation builds gradually and the operator may not notice until the wrapped material significantly reduces the effective pickup diameter. A heavily wrapped pickup reel has effectively reduced the tine extension radius, producing the same symptom as a reel with worn short tines: incomplete windrow recovery across the full width.<\/p>\n

Check the reel tube in wrapping-prone crops every 15\u201320 bales. Remove any wrapping with a knife \u2014 always with the machine completely stopped and the PTO disengaged. Do not attempt to remove wrapping from a rotating reel under any circumstances. Cut the wrapped material in two or three places around the circumference and pull it free rather than attempting to unwind it.<\/p>\n

Prevention for wrapping-prone crops: in cotton and sorghum vine conditions, reduce forward speed to allow the tines to engage individual stems rather than scooping masses of entangled material. The hammer-claw tines on the 9YF-2200S are more resistant to wrapping than spring tines because their wider spacing and rigid profile present fewer wrap points than the closely-spaced spring tine array.<\/p>\n

Cause 7: Forward Speed vs Pickup Speed Mismatch<\/h2>\n

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The Speed Ratio Concept<\/h3>\n

The pickup reel peripheral speed \u2014 the speed of the tine tips moving through the crop \u2014 is fixed by the PTO speed and the reel drive ratio. The forward speed of the machine relative to this tine tip speed determines the pickup angle at which tines engage the windrow. When forward speed is too high relative to tine peripheral speed, tines arrive at the windrow at a shallow angle and tend to push material forward along the ground rather than lifting it. This produces a characteristic rolling-windrow symptom \u2014 crop is pushed forward in a continuously growing heap rather than being lifted smoothly.<\/p>\n

The correct ratio of forward speed to tine peripheral speed varies by crop type. For standard cured hay in a normal windrow, the tine peripheral speed should be approximately 10\u201330% faster than the forward ground speed. Maintain rated PTO speed \u2014 at below-rated PTO speed, the tine peripheral speed decreases and the forward speed that produces correct pickup angle also decreases proportionally, meaning the correct operating speed is lower when PTO speed is low.<\/p>\n

Field Diagnosis<\/h3>\n

If the windrow material is pushed forward rather than lifted cleanly, reduce forward speed by 20%. If recovery improves immediately, forward speed was the cause. If the crop continues to push forward at reduced speed \u2014 with correct pickup height and full tine complement \u2014 the reel peripheral speed may be below specification from below-rated PTO speed or from a drive ratio change (check drive sprocket for missing teeth). The 9YF series pickup is designed for 540rpm PTO; at significantly below-rated speed, pickup efficiency decreases even when forward speed is reduced proportionally.<\/p>\n

Recovery Rate Targets by Crop and Condition<\/h2>\n
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Mahsul \/ Durum<\/th>\nExpected Recovery Rate<\/th>\nNotlar<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
Well-cured grass hay, standard windrow<\/td>\n95\u201398%<\/td>\nReference standard. Any rate below 93% indicates a pickup problem.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Alfalfa, first cut, full stand<\/td>\n92\u201396%<\/td>\nSome leaf loss from rake stage expected; pickup loss should be minimal.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Bu\u011fday \/ arpa saman\u0131<\/td>\n88\u201394%<\/td>\nBrittle stems mean some breakage during pickup is expected; rate below 85% suggests height issue.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Cotton stalk (shredded)<\/td>\n82\u201390%<\/td>\nSome material loss at rigid stem ends is normal; hammer-claw pickup recommended.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Lodged or mat-lying crop<\/td>\n75\u201388%<\/td>\nLower rate is inherent to crop orientation; pickup height at minimum and speed reduced.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n

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PTO Drive and Pickup Speed Reference<\/h3>\n
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PTO shaft and gearbox specifications for all 9YF pickup-drive configurations: tar\u0131msal \u015fanz\u0131man ve PTO \u015faft\u0131 \u00f6zellikleri<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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A worn CV joint or undersized PTO shaft causes speed variation at the pickup drive that produces inconsistent tine peripheral speed \u2014 the same symptoms as incorrect forward speed. Full driveshaft specifications: PTO driveshaft and CV joint sizing guide<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Frequently Asked Questions \u2014 Square Baler Pickup Problems<\/h2>\n
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\nMy baler leaves a thin stripe of hay on one side of the windrow but collects the other side fine. What causes this?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
A consistent stripe on one side of the windrow that is absent on the other side is almost always a pickup height issue \u2014 specifically, the pickup running at a lateral tilt with one side too high. Check that both gauge wheels are at the same height setting. If one gauge wheel has a flat tyre, damaged bearing or different setting from the other, the reel tilts and one side of the pickup runs at too great a clearance. Equalise both sides, verify the pickup tube runs level across its full width at operating speed, and recheck recovery. Alternatively, a cluster of missing or heavily bent tines on one side of the reel produces the same lateral stripe \u2014 inspect the tine condition across the full reel width and look for a zone of damaged tines corresponding to the uncollected stripe position.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nHow often should I inspect and replace spring tines?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
For operations below 2,000 bales per season in standard hay and straw, inspect spring tines at the pre-season service and replace any individual tines that meet the replacement criteria. A full tine set replacement is typically needed every 3\u20135 seasons at this volume. For operations above 4,000\u20135,000 bales per season, annual full-set replacement at the pre-season service is the more cost-effective approach \u2014 replacing individual failed tines mid-season is more expensive in labour and downtime than replacing the full set annually at a planned service. In hard-stalk crops (cotton, sorghum) where abrasive debris is collected alongside crop material, inspect tine condition every 500\u2013800 bales during the season as wear accelerates significantly in these conditions.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nMy pickup is collecting well in the morning but leaving more hay on the ground by afternoon. Why?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
An afternoon increase in uncollected crop from the same field and settings is almost always moisture-related, not machine-related. As hay dries through the afternoon, it becomes more brittle \u2014 fine leaves and stems shatter at tine contact rather than bending and being lifted. This shattering looks like poor pickup performance but is actually leaf loss from mechanical brittleness. The correct response is not to lower the pickup or change the tine setting \u2014 it is to accept that some leaf loss in the afternoon is inherent to dry-weather baling and to time the session to end before the crop reaches extreme dryness. For alfalfa where leaf loss is economically significant, avoiding baling after 16:00 on very hot, dry days reduces this afternoon leaf loss without any machine adjustment. If the afternoon crop is genuinely dry enough to shatter at tine contact, it is also at its minimum moisture content and optimal for baling \u2014 the bale quality benefit is worth the minor leaf loss.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nCan I straighten a bent spring tine rather than replacing it?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
Straightening a bent spring tine is possible once as a temporary field repair, but not recommended as a permanent fix. Spring tines are made from hardened spring steel \u2014 bending and then straightening the metal stresses it at the bend point and reduces the fatigue life at that location. A straightened tine is more likely to fail at the same point as the original bend under further operating load. In a field breakdown where you have no replacement tines available, straighten the bent tine to complete the session, but replace it at the first opportunity. If a spring tine has been straightened once and bends again at the same location, replace it immediately \u2014 a second bend at the same point indicates the metal has reached its fatigue limit at that stress concentration.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nIs the hammer-claw pickup on the 9YF-2200S better than spring tines for hay baling?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
For standard hay and straw baling, both systems recover crop at similar rates \u2014 the spring-tooth pickup on the 9YF-1700 through 9YF-2200 is very well-suited for alfalfa, grass hay and cereal straw in normal windrow conditions. The hammer-claw system on the 9YF-2200S provides advantages in specific situations: collecting crop from mat-lying or lodged positions where spring tines bounce over the material surface; hard-stalk crops (cotton, sorghum, sunflower) where spring tines deflect off rigid stems rather than lifting them; and high-ash or abrasive crop conditions where spring tine wear accelerates rapidly. If your primary crop is standard alfalfa or grass hay in elevated windrows, the spring-tooth models are entirely adequate and offer a lower machine cost. If you regularly work in lodged crops, hard-stalk residues or fields with significant debris, the hammer-claw system offers a meaningful recovery and durability advantage.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nMy baler pickup makes a clicking noise on every revolution. Should I be concerned?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
A regular click on each reel revolution \u2014 once per full rotation \u2014 typically indicates one of four things. First: a bent or loose tine that contacts a guard or frame component at one specific angular position. Second: a loose or broken cam follower that produces a mechanical click when the follower encounters a worn section of cam surface. Third: a cracked drive sprocket tooth that causes a brief load spike as it passes the drive chain. Fourth: a loose pickup guard or stone deflector that vibrates and contacts the reel tube at a specific rotational position. Stop the machine, disengage the PTO and wait for complete rest before investigating. Rotate the reel slowly by hand through one full revolution while listening and feeling for the click point \u2014 localise the source before attempting any repair. A click that becomes progressively louder or changes to a grinding sound indicates bearing wear and should be addressed before the next baling session.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nHow do I set the correct pickup height when moving between different field types?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
Moving between field types \u2014 from a firm, dry surface to an irrigated, soft field, or from a level paddock to a field with wheel ruts \u2014 requires a height adjustment check. On soft soils, the gauge wheels sink into the surface and reduce the effective tine clearance below the setting established on firm ground. If the gauge wheel sinks 15mm into soft soil compared to firm soil, the effective tine clearance decreases by 15mm \u2014 potentially moving from the correct 40mm clearance to 25mm where tines contact the ground. Carry the gauge wheel adjustment spanner on the machine and adjust after the first 30\u201350 metres in any new field type. Use soil penetration resistance as a guide: if your boot heel sinks more than 20mm into the field surface under normal walking pressure, the soil is soft enough to require a pickup height increase of 10\u201315mm compared to your firm-ground setting.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n
\nWhy does my pickup leave more hay on the ground on the first pass of a windrow than on subsequent passes?+<\/span><\/summary>\n
Higher material left on the first pass of a windrow \u2014 particularly at the row start near the field headland \u2014 is usually a speed-related behaviour. Operators typically approach the windrow end at reduced speed after the headland turn and then accelerate into the main field. At the lower entry speed, the forward-to-tine-speed ratio may shift into the range where tines push material slightly rather than lifting it cleanly. The fix is to reach operating speed before the pickup enters the windrow \u2014 accelerate during the headland approach so the machine enters the crop at the intended working speed. The first 5\u201310 metres of each windrow pickup quality will improve significantly when entry speed matches operating speed at the start of the row.<\/div>\n<\/details>\n<\/div>\n

Choose the Right Pickup Configuration for Your Crop<\/h2>\n
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From the spring-tooth 9YF-1700 for standard hay to the hammer-claw 9YF-2200S<\/a> for hard-stalk and lodged crops \u2014 tell us your primary crop and field conditions and we will confirm the correct pickup type for maximum recovery.<\/p>\n

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Troubleshooting Guide \u00b7 All 9YF Models \u00b7 Spring-Tooth and Hammer-Claw Square Baler Pickup Problems: Tine Wear, Height and Recovery Fixes Crop left on the ground behind the pickup is direct revenue loss \u2014 every pass that misses hay is income that stays in the field. Pickup problems range from simple height adjustment errors that take […]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1196","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-forage-baler"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1196","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1196"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1196\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1199,"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1196\/revisions\/1199"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1196"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1196"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/foragebaler.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1196"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}